13 thoughts on “EMBT’s new Online Courses are not free.”
Well, a great bunch of these courses are done by non-EMBT people who may simply want to get their time paid. It requires some significant work to prepare a course properly. If the quality of such a course is worth it, why not pay for it? That is still better than no such courses at all.
Microsoft is big idea. Studio free and education free. Why c# is so popular. Embro doest know how they will sell compiler when people dont know object pascal.
It’s a nice idea but who is going to pay for? You can find a lot of free documentations or resources on the web.
IMHO these courses are targeting a beginners audience. I also didn’t find any informations about available resources like source code or documentation…
The few available “free” courses targets C++ users only….
I went through the first lesson, and it does indeed target a newbie audience. Such basic lessons should indeed be free, and when they are provided by an EMBT employee the cost is already paid for. I hope they provide a more in depth look at Android development to convince me that Delphi is a good choice, since I am about to download Android Studio for FREE
Stéphane Wierzbicki It is an investment in future sales, As such, it is a part of overhead, paid for by the ever rising license costs. It is called enlightened self-interest, or simply “good business.”
The press release tells us that the venture is operated in partnership with “CodePower”. It specifies nothing more about CodePower. Finding Codepower’s webpage, there is absolutely nothing on it except links to Embarcadero Academy and something called “Delphi Star” that looks like a Delphi-only jobs board that was formerly a Delphi news site. Clicking on the Delphi Star link shows the webpage isn’t even working! This begs the question… who is behind “CodePower” and how did a company that doesn’t seem to have done… well… anything… land this job with Idera?
I pitched this idea of Embarcadero offering courses way back at the end of 2012. Of course, what I envisioned then was either using one of the many open source MOOC platforms to offer their courses or providing content to one of the established educational services that offer courses such as edX or Coursera. And of course, it wasn’t supposed to be directly monetized. 🙁 These people just don’t get the idea of attracting a user base before monetizing it.
It was the same thing with the package manager. I also pushed for package management and when a Delphi User Survey appeared that started asking questions about the possibility of a package manager I was going “Yes! Yes! YES!” Then when I got to the question that asked the maximum amount I would be willing to pay Embarcadero to offer my software in the package manager I was screaming “No! No! NO!!!” Then I can’t even repeat what I was saying when I read they wouldn’t offer the Mormot Framework in GetIt because it was “a competitor”. They don’t understand the difference between a package manager and an app store. Worse, they don’t get that the package manager was for US, to ease our deployment, not for THEM and not for them to make money from.
It’s like they never poke their head out from Delphi Island and see how things work in the rest of the programming world. Never.
>Embarcadero Academy instructors include … Marco
>Cantu… Jim McKeeth; and … Alister Christie.
This feels more like a side venture for these three to earn some extra income with – Christie has already been selling courses on Udemy for some time.
Well, a great bunch of these courses are done by non-EMBT people who may simply want to get their time paid. It requires some significant work to prepare a course properly. If the quality of such a course is worth it, why not pay for it? That is still better than no such courses at all.
Microsoft is big idea. Studio free and education free. Why c# is so popular. Embro doest know how they will sell compiler when people dont know object pascal.
It’s a nice idea but who is going to pay for? You can find a lot of free documentations or resources on the web.
IMHO these courses are targeting a beginners audience. I also didn’t find any informations about available resources like source code or documentation…
The few available “free” courses targets C++ users only….
Ah, but Lars Fosdal, as they have told us for years, we do not understand marketing.
I went through the first lesson, and it does indeed target a newbie audience. Such basic lessons should indeed be free, and when they are provided by an EMBT employee the cost is already paid for. I hope they provide a more in depth look at Android development to convince me that Delphi is a good choice, since I am about to download Android Studio for FREE
Stéphane Wierzbicki It is an investment in future sales, As such, it is a part of overhead, paid for by the ever rising license costs. It is called enlightened self-interest, or simply “good business.”
Larry Hengen Which course are you talking about exactly?
Stéphane Wierzbicki I would if they were reasonable. I already pay for egghead.io as well as a few other edu sites. I’m not paying “enterprise” prices tho.egghead.io – egghead.io – Learn professional JavaScript tools with Tutorial Videos & Training
Uwe Raabe
embarcaderoacademy.com – Introduction to Android Mobile Development with Delphi
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Perhaps they need to charge for the courses simply because the licenses are so cheap. 😐
The press release tells us that the venture is operated in partnership with “CodePower”. It specifies nothing more about CodePower. Finding Codepower’s webpage, there is absolutely nothing on it except links to Embarcadero Academy and something called “Delphi Star” that looks like a Delphi-only jobs board that was formerly a Delphi news site. Clicking on the Delphi Star link shows the webpage isn’t even working! This begs the question… who is behind “CodePower” and how did a company that doesn’t seem to have done… well… anything… land this job with Idera?
I pitched this idea of Embarcadero offering courses way back at the end of 2012. Of course, what I envisioned then was either using one of the many open source MOOC platforms to offer their courses or providing content to one of the established educational services that offer courses such as edX or Coursera. And of course, it wasn’t supposed to be directly monetized. 🙁 These people just don’t get the idea of attracting a user base before monetizing it.
It was the same thing with the package manager. I also pushed for package management and when a Delphi User Survey appeared that started asking questions about the possibility of a package manager I was going “Yes! Yes! YES!” Then when I got to the question that asked the maximum amount I would be willing to pay Embarcadero to offer my software in the package manager I was screaming “No! No! NO!!!” Then I can’t even repeat what I was saying when I read they wouldn’t offer the Mormot Framework in GetIt because it was “a competitor”. They don’t understand the difference between a package manager and an app store. Worse, they don’t get that the package manager was for US, to ease our deployment, not for THEM and not for them to make money from.
It’s like they never poke their head out from Delphi Island and see how things work in the rest of the programming world. Never.
>Embarcadero Academy instructors include … Marco
>Cantu… Jim McKeeth; and … Alister Christie.
This feels more like a side venture for these three to earn some extra income with – Christie has already been selling courses on Udemy for some time.
Joseph Mitzen
I agree completely! Rather than feeding the cow they are trying desperately to get every last drop of milk before it goes dry…